hardly painfully stupid…

I was actually thinking about when Utah was threatened by federal govt that their lands would be seized if they didn’t stop polygamy…they then prayed to God and God changed his mind…

still think they deserve the backlash-thinking that my orientation is wrong is one thing, but voting to take my righst away borders on evil

Gay people are not going away. Mormons are going to continue the hate, but try to disguise it as “tough love for God”. In the end, by treating a group of people as less than yourself, makes you simply that, less.

we should focus on mutual respect and to love each and every member of our world. We all deserve equal rights, if the LDS didn’t have them they would be just as upset.

The ‘Negro doctrine’ was a wholesale adoption of what most Christians in the USA believed in the years prior to the Civil War. Mormons just held onto that until 1978. Mockable, but not ‘no souls until God changed his mind’. Where do you get this stuff, Hanks House of Cut Rate Anti-Mormonism?

Yeah, Mormons are kooky. Have you looked at Christianity lately? Islam? Buddhism? It’s all absurd!

No, Mormons don’t deserve any and all backlash, they deserve measured, careful attacks via the legal system and the media. Nobody deserves violence, nobody deserves to be blacklisted simply because of their religion.

Actions need reactions. Beliefs, as strange as they may be, have to be left alone. I don’t mock your crystals as long as you don’t try to string them in my hair.

And the magic underpants give you the worst wedgie you’ve ever had. Not so cool.

the magic udnerwear though-that’s pretty cool…

And hon… my family has lots of the ‘unchanging standard’. Ol BY had 40 or so ‘unchanging standard’ marriages. Ooo wait, that was one man and multiple women!

Now the good news.Our lord Jesus Christ has COMPASSION ON THOSE WHO STRUGGLE WITH SAME SEX ATTRACTION.He offers complete forgiveness and restoration, made possible through his terrible suffering on the cross on our behalf.It is a very personal invitation to each of us regardless of our past.HIS atonement for my wayward foolishness in the past has filled my heart with gratitude.I could not argue with such love,it utterly melted my heart of stone.
This is the olive branch of peace and restoration we offer the gay community,expressed beautifully in a stanza from a hymn written by John Wesley. Speaking of Christ, Wesley writes:

”He breaks the power of canceled sin! He sets the prisoner free,His blood can make the foulest clean,His blood availed for me”!

Please come home to the throne of grace .You will be loved and welcomed,having been cleansed from your former sins which God will cast away and present you blameless and without spot at the last day.Won’t you come?

There’s no blindly defending here. I just don’t put up with the shitheads who feel they understand the world so well that they think that a one size fits all label sums up a religion.

My heritage is Buddhist, so perhaps I have a perspective you’re not accustomed to. I’ve lived in Asia and Europe, and am not caught up in the Abrahamic absurdity. So I definitely have some “fucking perspective,” perhaps even more perspective than you might have because your background.

I’m not Mormon so I feel no need to blindly defend the religion and its actions (including hateful and illegal actions). Objectively, the parallels between radical Islamic belief and radical LDS belief are striking. Naturally, white Mormons hate the idea that their faith resembles anything close to Islam.

I wish you luck in your struggle (by the way, the word jihad actually means struggling in the path the God).

Dude, I served a mission. I’ve gone through the fucking grindstone of the Mormon homophobia machine. Yeah, it’s fucking ugly. But there is one hell of a difference between the current state of Islam and the current state of Mormons.

The first major difference, is that Mormons have shown a propensity to learn. Mormons started ‘Signing for Something’. Mormons started ‘Mormons for Marriage’, the neat little site that exposed the breath of the church’s involvement. And fuck it all, Mormons are Americans and proud of it. That occasionally sinks in to their addled christianist brains and they stand up for the rights stated in the fucking Constitution.

Second, you don’t get killed just for saying Fuck You to the greybeards in Salt Lake.

Third, Prop 8 is a disgrace. It’s a violation of the basic principles of American democracy. But let’s get this clear. There were no damn bombs going off. There were no planes flying into buildings.

If you really can’t see the difference between a Wahhabi Jihadist and a Mormon, you are being willfully ignorant. Your also engaging in the kind of short sighted, buck-toothed redneck identity politics the fucking Neo-cons are so good at. You don’t have to be like them to beat them.

Buck up, donate some money, get out and protest. Just recognize that as many problems I have with the current Mormon hierarchy doesn’t change my heritage, and recognize that I’m fighting this disgrace just as hard as you.

So get some fucking perspective and recognize that all Mormons don’t fit into your handy dandy persecution complex. You’ll get a hell of a lot more done that way.